Talk:Milo of Croton

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I had learned of him in an ancient history course as "Milo of Kroton" Google comparison "milo of kroton" wins over "milo of croton" or "milon of croton" or "milon of kroton" but I am unsure if there is a reason it hasn't been moved yet. -Ich (talk) 21:07, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Details have been checked with the Oxford Classical Dictionary (1970), art. "Milon", and Der Kleine Pauly (1975), art. "Milon".

Will someone please "move" the article to the new, correct name?

S.

The second article is almost the same as this page from the Perseus Project. I don't know if it is fair use or not, but maybe it could be fixed when the articles are merged.

Corky842

Lacking...

Does the article seem to be kind of short to anyone else?84.84.207.58 (talk) 16:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

There isn't much material about this figure. ItsLassieTime (talk) 19:57, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Milo is also mentioned in Aristotle's "Nichomachean Ethics". Perhaps it would be better to also include this fact at the end of the third paragraph, where literature citing Milo is referenced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.25.183.125 (talk) 01:47, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

GA Status

I'm thinking of sending this to GA. Does anyone have any suggestions before I do so? Thanks! ItsLassieTime (talk) 01:48, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Newborn calf story

There was a story about Milo starting with a newborn calf and lifting it everyday until he was lifting a bull — this was in the very first version (from 2002) until it was removed recently. This is an interesting story (and for many people the only thing they know about Milo of Croton) so it would be good to include it in the article. I found the story mentioned in several places:

• Everything2 (not always a reliable source, I know)
• William A. Cohen; Peter Ferdinand Drucker (2007), A class with Drucker: the lost lessons of the world's greatest management teacher, AMACOM Div American Mgmt Assn, p. 37, ISBN 9780814409190
• Clyde Soles (2008), Climbing: Training for Peak Performance (2 ed.), The Mountaineers Books, p. 131, ISBN 9781594850981
• Alexander P. Spence (1990), Basic human anatomy (3 ed.), Benjamin/Cummings Pub. Co., p. 190, ISBN 9780805388602
• Daniel D. Chiras (2005), Human biology (5 ed.), Jones & Bartlett Publishers, p. 229, ISBN 9780763728991
• Exercises: Webster’s Quotations, Facts and Phrases, ICON Group International, Inc., 2008, p. 493, ISBN 9780546660814

There. At least one of those should be a good enough source. Could it be added into the article? Shreevatsa (talk) 21:55, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

I've (re-)added it into the article myself, but it would be good to expand on it and/or clean it up. Regards, Shreevatsa (talk) 22:03, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

More sources

Seems I just can't let it go:

• Hélène Adeline Guerber (1896), The Story of Greece, American Book Co., p. 81 (public domain book, and the first thing it says about Milo is the calf story)
• Seems the story was so well-known that a Latin proverb mentioned it:

taurum tollit, qui uitulum tulerit

— He can carry the ox, who carried the bull

or

taurum tollet qui vitulum sustulerit

— (Same meaning?)

• Some more sources: here, 120 here, etc.

Definitely worth expanding in the article IMHO. Shreevatsa (talk) 23:18, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

It looks like you are certainly trying, but most of these are modern sources, repeating the story without acknowledging any classical sources. One classical source (Cicero) speaks of Milo carrying a full-grown bull on his shoulders at Olympus, but does not mention the calf. The calf legend may be apocryphal.

Here's medieval Erasmus (unsure of his ultimate source):

Ultimate source may be Marcus Fabius, Quintilian Institutionis oratoriae libri duodecim, but he seems to be quoting a Greek source:

Kortoso (talk) 17:21, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

References

8-pack, etc

I have twice reverted[1] the attempted addition by User:98.215.80.6 of a paragraph with personal speculative commentary regarding one of the images. IMO, the paragraph in question is a clear example of essentially pure original research and thus does not belong in the article. To User:98.215.80.6: please do not re-add the paragraph to the article until and unless consensus to do so is established here, at this talk page. Thanks, Nsk92 (talk) 21:47, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

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