Talk:Douglas Lenat

Puffery

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/puffery, second meaning. 31.49.9.196 (talk) 18:29, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

agreed 129.22.1.212 (talk) 18:53, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Untitled

I removed: "..., devised a closed mathematical formula for prime numbers, "; as far as I know, if by this is meant a closed formula for calculating the Nth prime, this would be a huge bonus to those wanting to test primality, and would revolutionize our current algorithms for cryptography. Chas zzz brown 00:41 Dec 12, 2002 (UTC)

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Well in fact he did it when he was young, for testing primality only; the formula (which uses "ceiling" and "floor" operators to determine relative primality) is correct, but it's mostly useless for serious mathematical purposes, since the formula effectively merely duplicates the definition of prime number. Nonetheless, it was a valid result. Like a dog's walking on its hind legs, it's not that it's done well (or usefully), but rather that it can be done at all. I'd reinstate the fact in some form. 24.27.19.186

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Repeating an insult (the final part of the passage), should not have a place in an encyclopedia article. It is a fact that the hacker's dictionary has this definition. It is a simple insult to state that the unit is too large for practical use. I'm too close to this to feel comfortable removing the insult (I work with Doug) but I'd suggest that someone does.

It is perhaps for this reason that "bogosity" is measured in microlenats according to the Jargon File (also known as the Hacker's dictionary). (The lenat is considered too large a unit for practical use.)

I don't think that the explanation that the lenat is considered too large for practical use adds to the insult - the insult is in the use of the microlenat. I therefore don't think that this should be removed. However, I agree that it may not be clear to what extent this is tongue-in-cheek, so I've edited the passage to specify more clearly the locus of usage of the microlenat. What do you think?Bill 04:23, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

The micro-Lenat joke does not refer specifically to the Cyc project; I heard it in 1983 in the context of AM. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.96.79.118 (talk) 14:44, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Specify or delete criticism+insult

One paragraph about criticism and an insult - but not a word about what the criticism actually consists of, nor any references. I'll wait a bit, then if nobody has cleaned up I'll delete it next time I remember to have a look. HFuruseth 18:52, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I have a feeling it's something to do with Neats vs. scruffies, but I can see why you want a specific complaint; a specific complaint, however, will not have given rise to the micro-Lenat, which the paragraph seems a useful construct for introducing. Having a unit of measure named after you is pretty cool, and it seems to be a pretty fundamental unit too. Josh Parris 01:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

published a critique of conventional random-mutation Darwinism[citation needed]

According to http://web.mit.edu/manoli/evolution/www/main.html the citation might be to "The Role of Heuristics in Learning by Discovery: Three Case Studies" http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-662-12405-5_9 However I don't have access to full text and have not verified. DouglasReay (talk) 09:59, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Quote "intelligence is ten million rules"

The unreferenced quote "intelligence is ten million rules", attributed to Doug Lenat, is quite likely an incorrect recollection of a quote by Marvin Minsky in part three of the documentary The Machine that Changed the World (1992): "...how large is this [general knowledge] database that we all share? I suspect it's about ten million items, or units, whatever units are." Minsky's quote can be found at 33:22. An interview with Doug Lenat begins at 34:07 in the same episode, which may have led to the misattribution - though a Google search for "intelligence is ten million rules" indicates the quote is widely attributed to Lenat. Benklaasen (talk)

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Thesis research

Please could somebody with access to the original confirm that "...to bounce acoustic waves in the 40 mHz range..." is accurate. Millihertz looks bogus, authors should understand abbreviations before using them. MarkMLl (talk) 10:05, 3 April 2021 (UTC)