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Space Hulk / Space Crusade?

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Wait, wait, wait, wait! I live in northern Europe, and this article sounds highly weird. I played a board game called "Space Crusade" on a few occasions way back when. The one described in the article seems much like it, but the aliens were Chaos forces, with the Genestealer Tyranids thrown in, not just Genestealers and hybrids!

Furthermore, there's a third computer game, essentially the board game I'm familiar with in computer form. There was an expansion pack for it, too: "Space Crusade: The Voyage Beyond."

So what's going on here? Are there two different games, one called Hulk and one Crusade? Both Hulk and Crusade apparently have two expansion packs, but their stated names and contents are different. -- Kizor 19:26, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

On further remembrance (is that even a word?) I've recalled that the enemy also included Ork forces. Seems like a hodge-podge of different Warhammer 40K foes - though Chaos was the worst. -- Kizor 19:40, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Space Crusade is a very very old games workshop game, I think it might have been their first one in the warhammer 40,000 universe actually. It is sort of similar to Space Hulk from what I know (SC was before my time) in that its based in a 'dungeon' style space ship. Someone must have seen the similarities and thought it was just a regional mix up. --Josquius 20:26, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Space Crusade is a simplified version of a combination of Space Hulk & Warhammer 40K. It seemed to be aimed at a younger audience and was not sold directly from games workshop but through Milton Bradley that distributed through normal toy and game channels. Space crusade had 4 square boards with roooms printed on them that fitted together in different combos by plastic clips. Space hulk has dozens of corridors and rooms that clip together like a jigsaw puzzle allowing for more combinations (infact it was designed to be run with a rolling board so you can have a much bigger hulk than you hav board pieces or table space)
As noted above the aliens in Space crusade are a mix-up. The same thing happened with Battlemasters which is Milton Bradleys simplified version of Warhammer Fantasy Battle - all the aliens got lumped together under Chaos. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Waza (talk • contribs) 02:20, 22 November 2004
Above post is correct. Space Crusade was nowhere near the beginning of the WH40K franchise, however ( 1990 vs. 1987 ). I have also removed the comment that this is the first appearance of Genestealers in Warhammer 40,000 as it is incorrect - they appear ( although a little different looking ) in the original Rogue Trader bestiary. Boy, do I feel old. - 219.194.176.36 08:52, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tile-based game

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This should be categorised as a "Tile-based game." Since, you know, it was based on tiles —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 131.107.0.86 (talk • contribs) .

It is now :-). You are encouraged to be bold and make this kind of change yourself should you wish. Cheers --Pak21 17:59, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Typo?

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It says in the second edition that a blip could be 0-6... Was this meant to say 1-6, or, is this game just really weird like that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emhilradim (talk • contribs) 21:28, 26 October 2006

Yeah, I seem to remember some of the blips had 0 on them, representing scanner malfunctions etc. They could be used by the Genestealer player to confuse and distract the Marines. the wub "?!" 09:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This is correct. By coincidence I have a 0 blip here on my desk. Pdarley 22:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The 0 blip was a streamlined version of the old Ambush counters introduced in the Deathwing expansion. I still remember one of the mission quotes: "By the Throne brother, save your ammunition!" "Stone Thrower just killed a rat." :) Oni no Akuma 09:29, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Space hulk dilemma

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Sorry to be a pain but on the cover of one of the white dwarfs there is a picture of a death wing terminator fighting tyranids, but it looks as though the Tyranids have tau like back packs and that they are holding their sycthing talons instead of them being attached to their bodies can someone please help.62.255.33.221 12:23, 24 July 2007 (UTC)Dengar777  ;-)[reply]

Sorry if I'm mis-understanding you, but I don't see what you're asking. Are you asking if that White Dwarf image was from Space Hulk? If so, then yes, I believe it's from one of the Space Hulk computer games. Oni no Akuma 09:34, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Those were probably the extremely old-school Tyranid designs from 1st or 2nd edition Wh40k, before the 3rd edition redesign. That, or the similarily old-school Genestealer Hybrids. --The Fifth Horseman (talk) 13:00, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New computer version

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I've added a link to a fan conversion I found on SourceForge. It plays fairly well, although I always preferred playing the 'stealers to the marines. :) Oni no Akuma 16:59, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Downgrade to C class

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Article is not quite B class material. C class is appropriate. Protonk (talk) 00:51, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seeming bias in the article:

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I feel that the following section that someone has written is incredibly biased, posiblly verging insulting. It probably needs to be undone completely to a previous version.


" Discontinuity

Space Hulk is no longer supported by Games Workshop. The chief reason for that was that a player could enjoy months of entertaining games with little more than a dozen miniatures, hence the company had little opportunity to peddle new miniatures after the base box and a few supplements were picked up. In the early 90s Games Workshop turned from a gamers' company dedicated to produce intriguing and balanced games to a moneymaking venture trying to sell the most minature possible; this came at the cost of sacrificing games which lacked the perspective of "infinite army-building". Clearly Space Hulk, being centered around the idea of a limited cadre of Space Marines facing poorly differentiated alien broods, had very little space for such aggressive marketing strategies. The company has published suggestions as to how the game can be reenacted using the Kill-team rules in the revised Warhammer 40,000 rulebook. "

Regards,

86.7.66.6 (talk) 16:23, 29 January 2009 (UTC)Edward[reply]

Yes, the way it is written is too biased and POV'ish for an wikipedia article. But I have to say that the information itself in this removed section (minus the POV evaluation) is quite accurate.
I can provide proof in the form of an audio recording of an Q&A session with Jervis Johnson, where he states exactly the business approach as described in the section above, using Blood Bowl as
an example.
If anyone douts it and would like to hear for himself, or if anyone would like to rephrase the section above without the POV flavor and needs it as a source, I will upload it and post the link, just
say the word.79.205.124.110 (talk) 07:03, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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