Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Body Thetans

Teegeeack, Body Thetans and OT3 was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was consensus not reached.

All three of these articles are obscure terms from Scientology that have little meaning outside the scope of the ongoing battle between Scientology and its critics. They are summarized in the Xenu article, and there is little reason to expand them into their own separate articles. Speaking as a Scientology critic myself, I believe these are biased articles created by User:207.175.180.134 as part of a recent spate of articles biased against Scientology (however accurate they may be) that shatter the NPOV of the Scientology articles. --Modemac 21:46, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)

• I don't think the first two have much point, no. The third is not quite the same as Xenu and could conceivably be a different article, though not this one. User:207.175.180.134 gets full points for enthusiasm but less so for NPOV ... however, they should be encouraged to contribute. With good references - David Gerard 22:58, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)
• The Scientological equivilant of units from Starcraft. Shameless POV I happen to agree with, but that in no way matters. Delete Teegeeack and Body Thetans, keep OT3 as redirect to Xenu. --Lord Bob 23:58, Jul 12, 2004 (UTC)
• Keep all. These terms have enough currency that people may want to search for them. Given that, it's not a bad idea to give a detail its own short article which then links to the main one. The alternatives are a redirect, which makes you search the main article for the one bit you were initially interested in, or nothing, which makes you search all of Wikipedia. Wile E. Heresiarch 04:54, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)
• I can see someone searching for Body Thetan, keep that one. Make the others redirects.--Samuel J. Howard 05:02, Jul 13, 2004 (UTC)
  • On second thought, I think it would be worthwhile to have a disambig page at Teeegeack with a little explanation and pointing to Xenu and Earth.--Samuel J. Howard 05:04, Jul 13, 2004 (UTC)
    • On third-thought, make scratch the second thought, it's just silly make it a redirect.--Samuel J. Howard 05:06, Jul 13, 2004 (UTC)
• Keep Body Thetans; redirect the other two to Xenu. As an aside, I love the fact that Xenu is the only religion-related article to bear a spoiler tag. -Sean Curtin 05:23, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • I saw that too. Every religion with secret teachings should have one. -- There was some guy who called himself "Bawdy Thetan" on Usenet a few years ago. Also a good laff. Wile E. Heresiarch 13:26, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)
• Keep all - (With current redirects to Xenu) - Do people really believe this? Are we sure this is what scientology is about - too incredible - Tεxτurε 15:22, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

• Aside: People really believe it, but this stuff is part of the secret teachings, so you get some Scientology churches who deny it, others won't say, some say that you've got to know the context, etc. Redirect, per above. Geogre 18:36, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

• Keep. Keep all three as re-directs, at minimum. These terms come up in discussion, and people search on these terms, and the search should lead to something. -- orthogonal 06:13, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC) Wait a sec. they all now redirect to Xenu. If we're going to do that, at least have definitions of the redirected terms at the top of Xenu, nothing I hate more than being redirected and wondering, "now how the hell did I get here?" -- orthogonal 06:16, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

• I actually found the page by accident, trying to look up soemthing else. OT3 is also a newsgroup/listserv abbreviation I've seen used on several different lists for "thread has been off topic for more than three days (or 3 pages), please terminate or move." I tried to find an article that would discuss the origin of the term. Getting redirected to the Xemu was very confusing, given this context! Much as I hate to say it on something that's been VfD'd, should be disambiguate? FZ 16:14, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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