Talk:Johnny Adair

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"In his youth Adair was a National Front supporting skinhead football hooligan, and used to play in an Oi! band called Offensive Weapon. While still in his teens he joined the Ulster Young Militants, followed by the Ulster Defence Association - a loyalist paramilitary organisation which also styled itself the Ulster Freedom Fighters." - Surely this needs to be cited? 81.154.137.20 14:06, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny call me now ok 2A01:B340:81:1F73:DC6A:CAAE:DA2:5612 (talk) 23:19, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Photograph?

Is there any way we could add a biographical picture this article? Ruthfulbarbarity 05:11, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All photos of Adair are likely protected by copyright. A person owning a photo of Adair would have to upload it to Wikipedia and release into the public domain.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:57, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Paramilitary activities

Asked for a citation on this first paragraph as it seems to me to be anectodal and should be removed if not a referenced fact as this is an encyclopedia.BigDunc 19:59, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

what about his wife Gina? Who is she and what is her maiden name? Which part of Belfast is she from?I'm just curious,seeing as Gina is an Italian name.jeanne (talk) 15:15, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not really relevant to this article.BigDunc (talk) 16:25, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know it's nor relevant but seeing as quite a few Italians immigrated to Belfast a few generations ago I was wondering if perhaps Johnny had Italian/Catholic in-laws.jeanne (talk) 16:33, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to David Lister and Hugh Jordan's book Mad Dog: The Rise and Fall of Johnny Adair and C Company Gina Adair's maiden name was Curran and she came from Manor Street, off the Oldpark Road (a loyalist part of Belfast). The two started dating in 1980 as Curran was also in the skinhead scene like Adair. As an anecdotal aside Gina is a not uncommon name amongst women of Protestant background in Northern Ireland despite its Italian origins as, in Belfast, I personally know two Ginas with Protestant/Unionist roots. Keresaspa (talk) 01:17, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I believe Gina's maiden name was Crossan not Curran.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 21:53, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen that suggested too (here for instance) but there is disagreement across sources about the name. Either way, clearly not Italian. Keresaspa (talk) 18:33, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Visit to Germany

On YouTube, there is a video clip of Johnny visiting a German skinhead in prison.Shouldn't this be included in the article?07:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)jeanne (talk)

UDA commander

In the article in states that he was a UDA commander for three years up to 1994; this needs clarification as the UDA's last Supreme Commander was Andy Tyrie. Following his "resignation" in 1988, the UDA didn't have anymore overall commanders, instead it was run by the Inner Council.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:11, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Links between Adair and C18

I wonder why the combat 18 article links here? and vice versa.. The 'links' are tenuous at best, and we have to bear in mind here the republican left have a vested interest in portraying any loyalist as a fascist nazi, not a huge strecth with an idiot like Adair but even so the actual combat 18 links are not cited. If we linked everyone that ever met each other I suppose the IRA could be linked to the BNP via Gerry McGeough for example, not to mention the Aryan Brotherhood or the actual Nazis themselves via Sean Russell. Hachimanchu (talk) 05:33, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"not to mention the Aryan Brotherhood or the actual Nazis themselves via Sean Russell" -- and Frank Ryan (Russell's partner, who died on board a German sub or U-boat), Sean MacBride, Francis Stuart, Frank Walshe, et al. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 20:06, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gina Adair

Is Gina Adair still alive? Ovarian cancer is a very lethal form of cancer. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 20:06, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes she is still alive.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:36, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Offensive parts

I find listing his terrorist activities as "Military service" to be offensive. People like this would not have lasted 5 minutes in the British Army and by the same rational the use of "Brigadier" as "rank" doesn't sit well either. I appreciate that "Brigadier" was a term used in Northern Ireland but surely this term should be in italics or something to highlight that it is a slang term not a true rank. Photosrus (talk) 02:47, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I understand but military ranks and terminology are not the sole reserve of any one nationality or "side". 90.249.49.208 (talk) 20:38, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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