Talk:Clan Mackay

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.. sorry to revert, but it is a clan (family) FROM the north. A family TO the north is odd :) JohnCongerton 12:10, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

A lot of this article is crappily written. so I'm going to put a cleanup tag on it. cheers.

clean up

This article has been cleaned up now.

Battle of the Largs

The Norwegians were not defeated, it was an indecisive battle. Way to go, ultra-nationalist scots

As for Largs, it was actually in the long run decisive: The Norwgians were forced to retreat at that battle and then their fleet was attacked and defeated at Sea. However it did not mean an imediate and complete end to their power in the north of Scotland but a soon nut gradual decline within the coming years following Largs. 195.137.109.177 12:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

POV?

The article seems to include many non-neutral or unverified claims. In particular the “Defeat from McLellan Clan” section needs work. S.dedalus 23:07, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As for the section "Defeat from McLellan Clan" that is completely unsubstasiated personal opinion nonesense. This is an example of later stories, false and made up by supporters of other clans who were to put it bluntly enemies during the times of the clans. The MacKays amongst others unfortunatly have fallen victim to this biased writing. This occurs due to the side they may have took during wars in centuries gone by. As for Largs, it was actually in the long run decisive: The Norwgians were forced to retreat at that battle and then their fleet was attacked and defeated at Sea. However it did not mean an imediate and complete end to their power in Scotland but a soon but gradual decline within the coming years of Largs. 195.137.109.177 12:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a Mackay

I'm a Mackay and I'm glad this got cleaned up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.138.5.63 (talk) 23:37, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Style and reference and other issues

There is an odd, slightly anachronistic style of writing here, it also appears POV - a bit of a Clan Mackay hagiography - and the long timeline is not appropriate to an encyclopedia entry about the clan. Only material about the clan (and not about individual members or properties) should be here. hamiltonstone (talk) 07:59, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Map

I have removed the map showing the district of Sutherland. Firstly because the map shows the current boundries of the district of Sutherland which is different to where Sutherland was at the times of the clan. Secondly the Mackays lived in the area called Strathnaver during the times of the clan whch was seperate to Sutherland.QuintusPetillius (talk) 11:52, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Missing information?

a) Is the name really not spelled with a capital K? If not, why not? Isn't that the norm for Mac names (I write in total ignorance)?

b) Is the pronunciation M'Kay or M'Kie? I've heard both (e.g. Barry "M'Kay", late tennis player/commentator; Catriona "M'Kie", celtic harpist). Is it (as I suspect) a UK/US difference?

Paul Magnussen (talk) 19:33, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The name may be spelled with or without a capital K, the pronunciation likewise may vary from person and region, but the clan is known as Clan Mackay. Mackays, MacKays, MacKees, MacQuees, Mackies etc are all part of Clan Mackay. The usual tradition, capitals or otherwise, is that the way the clan is written and the pronunciation follow the Chief, who in this case is Hugh Mackay the Lord Reay. Exceptions do exist, see for example Clan MacBain where the name varies from chief to title to clan name, see http://www.burkespeerage.com/familyhomepage.aspx?FID=0&FN=MCBAINOFMCBAIN but that is not the case here. Yours ever, Czar Brodie (talk) 00:26, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]