Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fruitafossor

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The result of the debate was keep. —Korath (Talk) 04:14, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)

Fruitafossor

Could be CNN's April Fool's day joke. Author has a history of hoax contributions. jni 11:32, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Excuse me. I do not write hoaxes. I really wonder where you got that idea. If that's a CNN April fool's joke, why don't we wait until it's verified? In the meantime, I'd like to correct the impression that "I" contribute hoaxes. JakeGHz 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Keep.Comment. The CNN article, along with articles from several other news agencies, all reference either a Science article or the Carnegie Museum of Natural History as the original source. On the museum's web page there is a press release with more information.[1] While this may be real, based on the press release this discovery smells a little funny. Confirmation that this was not a hoax provided by FreplySpang and Aranae. On a day like this, everyone's hoax detectors are set on high. --Allen3 ^talk 15:31, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)
For your information, I am a subscriber of edition.cnn.com, or in layman's terms, CNN International. And of usgs.gov. I check my email every day. Why shouldn't I see it? --JakeGHz 15:46, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- May I request that we put this dispute on hold until the Pope is well again. --JakeGHz 19:01, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  - This pope or the next one? -R. fiend 21:42, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
KEEP. Absolutely. I was about to make this page only to find out it existed. This is not a joke. It was published in Science and the online version came out yesterday. There's nothing April Fool's about it and is a very valid article. I'm going to add to the edits and sincerely request that no one delete this page and the efforts of JakeGHz and myself pointlessly. I have no idea why anyone would have thought it a joke in the first place. What smells funny about and early mammal the convergently evolved characteristics that have evolved in numbats, xenarthrans, spiny anteaters, and aardvarks? I would hope a joke would be more entertaining. --Aranae 20:45, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)
Strong KEEP. Aranae beat me to the explanation. Online version of Science is not particularly available to the public, but at least see here: [2] Perhaps the alliterative names in the article ("fruitafossor", "Wally Windscheffel") tripped people's hoaxometers? FreplySpang (talk) 20:53, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
KEEP. Thanks very much for the support and edit; these guys wouldn't believe the article for some reason. NOW, can we leave this thing alone and pray for the Pope's recovery, or easy transition into the afterlife (provided you believe in the afterlife, but even if you don't just do it, 'cos I do. If you find something wrong with that, sorry can't help it, don't raise another argument)? Someone's got to remove the delete tag, btw. JakeGHz 23:07, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Keep. Was real animal: please see National Geographic news article for further confirmation. [3]

Well done JakeGHz and Aranae for your work on the animal. Capitalistroadster 01:36, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I believe Aranae that this is a genuine discovery. Yesterday Google found zero hits for either "Fruitafossor" or "Windscheffel", now the story is in dozens of news sites. If it is a hoax, it is very elaborate one like Piltdown Man, not one specifically crafted for Wikipedia. Consider this nomination withdrawn. jni 11:28, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
About identity of JakeGHz, see WP:VIP#84.154..2A..2A.2FJakeGHz and WP:AN/I#The Fort Bleakeley vandal, isn't it convenient that this expert of hoaxes decides to register an account and help us at the very day we find several fake articles all originating from a same IP range or by various Jake* accounts? jni 11:28, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Excuse me, but I think that's a mistake. I just registered a few days ago, and this is one of my first articles. Another thing is that I can spot hoaxes but I can't create them. I'm a very concrete person, see. I think someone better clear this matter up. I testify that this is my one and only account in Wikipedia. I really wonder how you get these ideas. Have you ever heard of a thing called coincidence? Personally, I think it's all nonsense, but repeated occasions have led me to believe that it's possible. I would have thought that you would be a bit nicer to newcomers, after all, I was only doing my business. And now, you have the gall to include me in this vandalism business. Shame on you. Someone better clear this up. Oh, and don't forget about the Pope. --JakeGHz 11:37, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I just want to ask if you're always like this to newcomers. I mean, a newbie writes something, the oldies pounce on him and try to delete his article, and in the end, when it's verified, the very same person who accused him doesn't give him credit, and even ties him up to an master hoax creator of some sort, thus damaging his reputation further. Because if you are like this, then Wikipedia is a whole lot of ****. If you aren't, I expect a withdrawal of your accusation and an apology. JakeGHz 13:05, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Keep — RJH 17:24, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I can't believe you ignored my statement. That's it. I'm leaving. I think Wikipedia is one whole load of ******** and that you're all arrogant, ignorant, pea-brained, paranoid idiots! I hope your encyclopedia gets destroyed by numerous vandals and expert hoax masters and whatnot! I've had enough! JakeGHz 14:59, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You're despicable! JakeGHz 15:00, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Nice Daffy Duck impersonation. Rick K 23:03, Apr 3, 2005 (UTC)

This seems to be real, so Keep, even though the original article creator is acting in a petulant and thin-skinned manner. *Dan* 20:11, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The artist's conception on this page is presented without attribution and is from [4], a copyrighted source. hydnjo talk 19:46, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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