Talk:From Here to Eternity

Plot

Needs a section summarizing the plot

The Clash has a live album of same name. Need for a disambiguation page?

The opening sentence in this article "ordinary bouts of intimidation and infidelity" is about as lazy--or POV--as they come. horrid.--Buckboard 00:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I removed ordinary (POV) replaced with daily in the sense of the everyday stuff.Julia Rossi 10:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Where does the title come from? Rudyard Kipling and Barrackroom Ballads? PiCo 23:50, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

The plot description is messed up, i.e. out of order. Not going to get into that mess because it needs someone who can write clear English but Maggio escaped and Prewitt killed Judson [i]before[/i] the CO was asked to resign. Btw, why do plot descriptions on Wikipedia all read like a sixth grade book report ?

rumor reported as fact

As the Deborah Kerr article notes, there is no confirmation of romantic involvement with Lancaster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.59.231 (talk) 01:08, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Portrayal of Maggio

Recently the following edit: "The character of Maggio is a male hustler in the novel, and the novel's portrait of gay nightlife in Waikiki circa 1941 is not to be found in the film version. Also cut from the film: at the novel's start, one of the main characters is having an affair with a Japanese American girl under her parents' roof. As is typical of films about Hawaii up to and including Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor, the ethnic diversity of Hawaii tends to be neglected in studio films about the islands; the novel at least recognizes the rich ethnic diversity of the islands, even if explored primarily through a sexual lens." was made to amplify the production section.

I believe that the material is relevant and can be retained although I have asked for a citation/reference link so that it will not fall into the category of unverified or WP:NPOV. FWiW, please comment. Bzuk (talk) 13:42, 6 December 2009 (UTC).

The ethnic diversity comments definitely need a source or three. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:32, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

The ethnic diversity comment is foofoo. Watch the movie (I just did, again). ALL scenes off-base portray many many non-Caucasians engaged in a variety of activities. Politically-correct commentary has gone over the top, to where it is now deceitful as well as being ridiculous. 116.231.79.159 (talk) 06:55, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Sergeant Warden

Warden was a First Sergeant (or "Top" sergeant) not Sergeant First Class (a lesser rank). Warden did not participate in "the treatment" used to coerce Prewitt to box. That was done by the lesser non-coms in the company and on the boxing team. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GrandpaMartin (talk • contribs) 20:31, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Gross vs earnings

The article states the picture had earnings of $12.2 million with a gross of $30.5 million. bug with a budget of only $1.65 million, where did the other $27,630,000 go? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.198.150.161 (talk) 02:53, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Schofield Barracks

Schofield Barracks was named after General John Schofield, an American Civil War general who became Secretary of War and then gave himself the Medal of Honor. Originally people could recommend themselves for the Medal of Honor. 108.237.241.88 (talk) 02:58, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

parodies

There ought to be a list of parodies of the beach scene. I'm pretty certain Sid Caesar did one, and of course there's the takeoff in Airplane!. WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 11:59, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Unsourced material

Below information was tagged for needing sources long-term. Feel free to reinsert with appropriate references. DonIago (talk) 16:34, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Production

Sinatra himself had been bombarding Cohn with letters and telegrams asking to play the ill-fated Maggio, even signing some of the letters "Maggio". Sinatra benefited when Eli Wallach, who was originally cast as Maggio, dropped out to appear on Broadway instead. Sinatra gained the role, ultimately taking a pay cut in the process (earning $8,000, a huge drop from his $130,000 salary for Anchors Aweigh) to star in the film. Sinatra's screen-test was used in the final cut of the film; the scene included Sinatra improvising with two olives, "the terror of Gimbels Basement," pretending the olives were a pair of dice. The material of the rather explicit novel had to be considerably toned down to appease the censors of the time, but author James Jones objected to this. For example, in the famous beach scene, it is less obvious that Kerr and Lancaster's characters are having sex than it is in the novel and in the later miniseries based on the book. Though she wore a bathing suit, Deborah Kerr was told to wear a skirt before the scene. Others wanted the suit to have a fixed skirt, but both Kerr and Lancaster stuck with doing the passage with no change to their beachwear. The two refused to do the scene standing up, so Zinnemann let them do the scene with waves of the water hitting them and staying wet as they kissed. The censors wanted the scene to be cut completely, but Columbia refused and the scene stayed in. Also left out of the film are Maggio being a male hustler and the portrait of the gay nightlife in Waikiki. A rumor has been circulating for years that George Reeves, who played Sgt. Maylon Stark, had his role drastically edited after preview audiences recognized him as television's Superman. This is depicted in the film Hollywoodland. However, Zinnemann maintains all his scenes were kept intact from the first draft, nor was there ever a preview screening. The U.S. Army withheld its cooperation from the production (most of the movie was filmed where it was set, at Schofield Barracks, Hawaii) until the producers agreed to several modifications, most noticeably the fate of Captain Holmes. Numerous barracks locations are still intact and still occupied by active duty troops. In both the movie and the book, the bar and restaurant called Choy's, where the fight scene takes place in the movie and where the novel opens, is named Kemo'o (pronounced "kay-moe-o" in Hawaiian) Farms Bar and Grill. Choy's was chosen by James Jones in honor of Kemo'o Farms' head chef. Kemo'o Farms Bar and Grill is still in operation and remains deeply associated with the adjacent Schofield Barracks, and the cast and crew, especially Sinatra, are reputed to have patronized the bar to the point of excess.

Awards

It is my understanding that while there is no rush to do so, Awards sections generally should have citations to the specific announcement of the award. If there is consensus otherwise, please provide a link to the appropriate discusison. In any case, I'm not planning to take action against the section as it stands, but it really should be improved with references. Marking it causes no harm, and may lead editors to improve it. DonIago (talk) 15:27, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Location shooting details needed!

Shouldn't the production section detail which scenes were shot in Hawaii and which were done on Hollywood backlots? Obviously, the Kerr/Lancaster beach romp was on Oahu, but it's unclear to me which other scenes were also shot in the future 50th State. [signed] FLORIDA BRYAN

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