Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of oxymora
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The result of the debate was - kept - SimonP 22:26, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
Nonsense. POV. Not encyclopedic. Take your pick. And when did oxymora become the plural of oxymorons? dictionary.com lists the plural as oxymorons. RickK 00:04, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep First of all, no offense, but dictionary.com is useless. Merriam-Webster and American Heritage (the two true dictionaries) both list the plural form as oxymora. Besides that, this list is no less "encyclopedic" than many other lists we call articles. Saaga 23:05, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete as not encyclopedic. POV, too, but that's to be expected since Neutral point of view is apparently an oxymoron. Philthecow 00:09, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Language changes, and many of the terms here would be accepted as oxymorons by most people. If I were looking for oxymorons, this is exactly the article I would be looking for. This article is no less encyclopedic, or less POV, than other lists which have passed unscathed through VfD. Agree this could be cleaned up, but deletion is silly. Denni☯ 01:18, 2005 Mar 18 (UTC)
- Strong keep. I see no logical reason for this very interesting, useful list to be deleted. Rename as List of oxymorons as appropriate. --Gene_poole 01:34, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep, but purge the POV ones like "Alberta environment minister" - SimonP 01:59, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, I think I've seen this before in the form of an internet joke. Microsoft Works? Funny, but not encyclopedic. Eixo 02:29, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep, rename/cleanup as necessary. Kappa 02:34, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Neutralitytalk 03:08, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
- And you could add motor sports too, but the booze and ciggies industries would be up in arms at such a slur on a manly activity. So yes, it's PoV and unencyclopedic. Delete. -- Hoary 05:19, 2005 Mar 18 (UTC)
- Keep, Rename and Clean up. A list of oxymorons could be very encylopedic. This list has a lot of problems though. Needs to be purged of POV and false examples.
- Keep, cleanup and expand. Megan1967 06:17, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. This is a rather funny and potentially useful article. — JIP | Talk 06:37, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Rename and POV-purge Lectonar 07:38, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Move to List of oxymorons. Purge POV phrases if they are not of note. "Military intelligence" may be a POV condemnation of the abilities of the military, but it's one of the most famous "humorous oxymorons" there is. Demi T/C 07:51, 2005 Mar 18 (UTC)
- Okay, the mora who created that plural should be whacked with pieces of ira. Anyway, this needs to be treated with extreme care as it's a prime target for adding jokes to. Merge the subset of interesting oxymorons onto Oxymoron#examples. Radiant_* 10:17, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
- What is the etymology of the word "oxymoron"? If it's Greek, then "oxymora" is the correct plural. I doubt it comes from the word "moron". As to your jocular plurals, note that "conundra" is a correct plural for "conundrum" but "kettledra" is not a correct plural for "kettledrum". — JIP | Talk 15:36, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, it's Greek. I love derivations like these, hence my jokes with them (also 'boxen', 'pentia' etc). For reasons that elude me, Latin words such as conundrum tend to keep their Latin plurals even in English, but Greek words get English -s plurals. There are probably exceptions to both, though, and double plurals like 'museas'. I guess this is similar to English dropping suffixes from nearly all classical authors (e.g. 'Homer' rather than 'Homeros'). And I'd love to have some dra in my room :) Radiant_* 16:09, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
- The exception to the rule being "criterions". :-) Chris 21:20, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, it's Greek. I love derivations like these, hence my jokes with them (also 'boxen', 'pentia' etc). For reasons that elude me, Latin words such as conundrum tend to keep their Latin plurals even in English, but Greek words get English -s plurals. There are probably exceptions to both, though, and double plurals like 'museas'. I guess this is similar to English dropping suffixes from nearly all classical authors (e.g. 'Homer' rather than 'Homeros'). And I'd love to have some dra in my room :) Radiant_* 16:09, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
- What is the etymology of the word "oxymoron"? If it's Greek, then "oxymora" is the correct plural. I doubt it comes from the word "moron". As to your jocular plurals, note that "conundra" is a correct plural for "conundrum" but "kettledra" is not a correct plural for "kettledrum". — JIP | Talk 15:36, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. I don't have a pick to take, and the list as a whole is nice to have. As for the name, I suppose it doesn't matter either way. For the record, most OneLook hits don't give a plural at all, but those that do variously give both forms or only oxymora. So would seem rather futile to claim that one's right and the other's wrong. -- Smjg 16:45, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Ruakh 18:36, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I split the contents into categories, and remove some of the less humorous or more pointless examples. DJ Clayworth 18:57, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Especially with the recent category split, which better clarifies the nature of the entries. Dtobias 19:03, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep rewrite, but the previous version which did not differentiate between true oxymorons and the joke ones was pretty bad. -R. fiend 19:40, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect back to Oxymoron#examples. Keeping this "list of" as a separate article is just bait for vandals. Rossami (talk) 07:42, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep 212.50.160.44 20:50, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Merge with Oxymoron, along with some further cleanup. Several of the examples are not oxymorons. Arkyan 08:58, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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