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why cant I change this page? I would like to add something about Ginny. She is my favorite person from Harry Potter. I want to add some more info about her and Harry and their kids. Please tell me how I can add it!!

emily, [email removed]

ps thanks!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.72.199.41 (talk)

Birthday

J.K. Rowling's offical website says her birthday is on Aug. 11, on wizard of the month

Blood fractions are offensive

I don't think it's appropriate to apparently casually and systematically describe characters by the proportion that they are witches and wizards. It completely misses the point that Rowling was making and is the kind of thing a death eater would put in a bio. 122.148.196.210 (talk) 06:54, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blood fractions are important to Voldemort's followers, and among others to the Black family with exception of Sirius Black and of Nymphadora Tonk's mother (Andromeda Tonks née Black, sister of Bellatrix and Narcissa). The fact that the Weasleys are full-blood wizards (and, as the Dark Wizards call them, "blood traitors") is mentioned in Order of the Phoenix chapter six, when Harry discovers the Blacks' genealogical tree affixed on the wall, and has Sirius explain it oo him, so it is part of the Harry Potter epos as told in the books. About being offensive, I don't see any offence in calling the Weasleys "full-blooded", Snape "half-blood" (he labeled himself the Half-blood Prince, remember?), and Hermione herself said she was "a Mudblood and proud of it" (Deathly Hallows ch. 24). It's all in the tone: Mudblood becomes an insult in Draco Malfoy's mouth or even in Kreacher's, but they miss their mark because Hermione decides not to take offence. — Tonymec (talk) 19:57, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

only daughter?

why ginny weasly is parents' only daughter? 2404:8000:1027:85F6:18F8:772F:D8D4:B800 (talk) 15:37, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because they don't have other daughters. Only daughter doesn't mean only child if right before it it says "youngest sibling". —El Millo (talk) 16:45, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Full Name?

Just out of curiosity, in the opening paragraph with her name in bold, why is her name listed as "Ginny Weasley" and not "Ginevra Molly Weasley"? I happened to notice that on the other Harry Potter character's pages, their full names are showcased, such as "Ronald Bilius Weasley" instead of just "Ron Weasley." Is there a specific reason for not displaying Ginny's full name, or is it an oversight? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bibliophile Dragon (talk • contribs) 06:30, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There isn't a particular reason for Ginny being different. However, is her full name stated in the books? Is there a reliable source that can corroborate that is the character's full name? Because otherwise it's an unsourced addition, and anyone seeing it add it might conclude that whoever's adding it is simply making it up. —El Millo (talk) 15:48, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ginnys first name is Ginny anyway blots not a nickname 2A00:23EE:1068:8740:7CB9:A06D:AFC2:4E4A (talk) 15:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I found two sources providing evidence that Ginny's full name is Ginevra Molly Weasley.

Actual reliable source found as the archive of Ginny Weasley's profile at Pottermore. —El Millo (talk) 04:13, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

...and added. —El Millo (talk) 04:14, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Prove it 2A00:23EE:1068:8740:7CB9:A06D:AFC2:4E4A (talk) 15:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't Ginny surname be Potter?

The author JK Rowling has herself stated that Ginny's official name is Ginny Potter CM789501 (talk) 09:30, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, because she's Weasley for the majority of the books. She only becomes Potter in the epilogue - and even then with the exception of "Rowling said so" there's no canon to say they were married, or even took Potter's name if so. See WP:HPP/SG - which is linked in the hidden text of the lede para. Chaheel Riens (talk) 10:14, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.wizardingworld.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/quidditch-world-cup-2014-daily-prophet-reports

This is a work published by JK Rowling herself on Jan 26th 2018 originally on the Pottermore website.

Additionally, in the Cursed Child as well, the author refers to Ginny as Ginny Potter.

Sites such as Harry Potter fandom also refer to Ginny as Ginny Potter.

https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Ginevra_Weasley

Quote from Pottermore

"The Potter family — minus Mother, Ginny Potter, who of course is here in the journalists’ enclosure with me — have been given prime places in the front row." CM789501 (talk) 10:17, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please, refer to WP:Common name. WP:Official names are not mandatory. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 15:42, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Last appearance

Hello! Would anyone oppose changing Ginny's "last appearance" in the infobox to Harry Potter and the Cursed Child? Wafflewombat (talk) 00:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the infobox appearances only include the original books. The films were never included there, for example. —El Millo (talk) 02:32, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would strongly suggest reverting "last appearance" to Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, as the article specifically states in the very first line that Ginny Weasley "is a fictional character in the Harry Potter series of novels by J.K. Rowling"; and I would suggest doing the same, of course, with all the other characters that have their own article. Vhstef (talk) 19:07, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ginny also appears in film adaptations and a stage play. These are officially licensed works that are notable and part of the Harry Potter canon.

The lead for Gandalf says he is "a protagonist in J. R. R. Tolkien's novels The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings" but his last appearance is Unfinished Tales.

The page for Katniss Everdeen approaches the issue in a slightly different way by stipulating that the "last appearance" is in "literature".

There are multiple ways to handle this. I am willing to be convinced that your suggestion is the best or correct way, but you will need to provide evidence, such as an MOS guideline or a prior talk page discussion in which editors agreed that characters that originate in literature should not have their last appearance listed as an adaptation or a spinoff work. Wafflewombat (talk) 20:05, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not notable, really ?

A {{Notability}} template has recently been added to this article, doubting the notability of its subject and menacing merging, redirecting or deleting the whole article. I believe that Ginny Weasley is one of the main characters in the Harry Potter novel series, let's say certainly one of the top 10 and probably even one of the top 5, and that as such an article about her of course covers a subject notable enough to be part of Wikipedia. FWIW this article is linked from the Characters section of the {{Harry Potter}} bottom banner, and not as a "Supporting character" either; she even ends up as Harry's wife, but we only know that from the epilogue at the end of the last novel, and from the theatre piece. — Tonymec (talk) 00:18, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added the tag because right now there isn't evidence in the article of her notability. No matter our personal assessments of her importance, notability on Wikipedia has to be established by reliable secondary sources that clearly state her importance. I did a quick Google Scholar search and found a number of articles about her or mentioning her, so I suspect she is notable enough in published sources to continue to merit her own page. I am in no hurry to merge or delete this page, but I wanted to let others know that Ginny's article needs a lot more sources before it is deemed notable by Wikipedia standards. Wafflewombat (talk) 04:56, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If we don't doubt that the subject is notable, but we think that it requires additional sources, then IMHO the appropriate banner is {{More citations needed}} or one of its aliases such as {{Needs sources}}. I found 78 redirects to that template, see this search page. See also in this template's documantation when to use it, when not to use it, and possibly what to use instead. — Tonymec (talk) 12:04, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message. It looks like I've gone and gotten myself involved in another content discussion! I removed the tag, and you may feel free to put any other tag on the page that you feel is appropriate. I'm going to step aside on this. Wafflewombat (talk) 12:35, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone and had a look at the article, and AFAICT it has references almost everywhere, except in the short sections summarizing Ginny's appearances in the various books, the film and the theatre piece, each of which, however, is only a very short summary of a longer article (with references) found elsewhere and linked to in the respective section. Maybe the proportion of "primary" vs. "secondary" sources could be found unsatisfactory by some, and I haven't tried to separate them, but anyway, to make a comparison, when asked "which are the last words of Julius Caesar according to Shakespeare ?" my tendency is to look into Shakespeare's Julius Caesar for an answer, not into the doctoral theses written about Shakespeare by some Oxonian and Cantabrigian PhDs. IOW, IMHO there are subjects, and details about them, where the best sources are the primary sources. In short: I'll leave that article as-is for the moment, and if you, or someone else, want to reopen the debate, I'll listen to any new arguments; maybe I'll change my mind yet. — Tonymec (talk) 18:06, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]