Talk:List of programs broadcast by ABC (American TV network)

What Happened to the shows?

The list is missing my faves, The secret life of the american teenager, 10 things I hate about you, ruby and the rockits! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.77.84 (talk) 22:24, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

ABC

ABC is also the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, the Australian equivalent of the BBC. It could also be the title of other broadcasting compaies around the world. We need to avoid the already hefty America-centrism of the wikpedia.

According to American Broadcasting Company, the network has an official name that ABC stands for. Considering that we know that Australia and the Phillipines at least have their own ABC's, this page ought to be moved to List of programs broadcast by American Broadcasting Company. I don't know how notable the non-American networks are, as to whether we should create a dab page, or simply link to the other companies from the American page. NickelShoe 13:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Merge?

Here, here. The world is not contained within the USA.

Secondly, should not List of ABC shows be merged with this article?

Avalon 21:32, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Weekly schedule

Just like every other List of programs page (CBS, FOX, NBC), this page is not to have an updated weekly guide per WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not a directory. Per #3 of this policy says that Wikipedia is not a TV/Radio Guide. I have bolded what I refer to: For example, an article on a radio station generally should not list upcoming events, current promotions, phone numbers, schedules, programme lists, etc. The midseason schedule that does not have to be updated constantly is OK: although mention of major events or promotions may be acceptable. Please do not re-add the weekly schedule. -- Wikipedical 18:10, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I have removed the weekly schedule -- AGAIN -- as it violates WP:NOT. Wikipedia is NOT a TV Guide. If posters continue to readd it, I will suggest this article go to AfD, for said violations. --Mhking 00:55, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Whadda Heck

Why da freakin' crap do u guyz keep editin' out my edits. Zack and Cody and Cory in the House are SITCOMS. Sure, OK. They may be aimed at children ages 12-16. But they r still sitcoms. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr. Comedian (talk • contribs) 22:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Scrubs

When will ABC air Scrubs and when will the final season begin I've been looking ever since I heard it moved from NBC Matthew Cantrell (talk) 22:50, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

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2011 Comedy Scripts/Pilots

Don’t Trust the Bitch in Apartment 23 Midwestern gal’s horrible New York living situation. Bad Mom Grandma raising kids hands them back to Mom (Jenna Elfman). Untitled Rick Dresser Project Adult siblings and their relationships. Dealbreaker Based on the Tumblr blog. Untitled Tim Allen Project Guy’s guy in female-dominated world.

Untitled Dave Walpert Project Brother-sister comedy in the vein of You Can Count On Me. Untitled Miller Brothers & Wilmer Valderrama Project Latin pop star (Valderrama) discovers he has an 8-year-old son. Untitled Andy Gordon Project Guy marries into overbearing family. Man Up Guy fights for manhood in a world of women. Good Guys, Bad Husbands Three men excel at work but create havoc at home.

Untitled Kang Kelly Project Married couple, seen through flashbacks, before and after kids. My Formerly Hot Life Forty-year-old woman looks back at the good old days. Long Flat Balls Friends road-trip to the World Cup. Based on the film. Understanding Today’s Man Four men’s stories, narrated by the manliest man in the world. The Girl Upstairs Hot twentysomething is neighbor to a guy she grew up with.

Lost and Found NYC party girl’s 18-year-old son turns up. My Freakin’ Family Young parents deal with disparate grandparents. Work It Out out-of-work car salesmen dress as women to get jobs as pharmaceutical reps. Counter Culture Based on the book about diner waitresses. Untitled DeAnn Heline & Eileen Heisler Project TBD.

Sullivan’s Second Chance Adult siblings going through divorces move in with their parents. Loser Prep Faculty and students at boarding school. We’re Just Like You Only Prettier Southern sisters feel like outsiders. How to Be a Better American Man attempts self-improvement after learning that everyone thinks he’s a jerk. Kevin’s Life With Women Three sisters raise their kid brother after Mom dies.

Bingo Workplace comedy about an active-senior community. Plan This Based on the life of L.A. party-planner Mindy Weiss. Port Love TBD. Untitled Damon Wayans & Don Reo Project Sitcom star’s TV family adores him; his real family thinks he’s an ass. Untitled Tony Gama-Lobo & Rebecca May Project Sitcom set in the world of food trucks, based on Al Madrigal’s stand-up.

No Wonder My Parents Drank Based on Jay Mohr’s book. Untitled Iain Morris & Damon Beesley Project Single dad moves in with Mom. Untitled Jeff Bowen & Hunter Bell Project Brothers share an OB/GYN practice and a crazy mother. Untitled Ben Karlin Project TBD. Rollerworld Irreverent, smart young women are stuck in an economically depressed town.

Bad Taste in Men A hapless dating life; Jennifer Love Hewitt executive-produces. Hate This Place Multigenerational comedy akin to Modern Family. Untitled Annabel Oakes Project, a.k.a. Us Against the World Romantic comedy executive-produced by Teri Hatcher. Sunnyside Adapted from a Swedish show about two couples new to the suburbs. 5 Wives, 3 Secretaries, and Me New York woman returns home to her multiply married Texas father.

Untitled Tommy Dewey & Greg Bratman Project Rich kid hires his not-rich best friend to work alongside him. Change of Plans Based on Ryan Raddatz’s eccentric childhood, in which his dad ran a family business from their living room. The Mulligans Widow’s friends move in, forming an unlikely family. Home Invasion Hyperparenting couple’s plans are torpedoed by relatives. The Cube Two mismatched cubicle-mates.

Untitled Mari Heller & Cailin Goldberg-Meehan Project Twentysomethings’ New York friendships all revolve around food. Untitled Padma Lakshmi Project Female chef dumps philandering husband, takes over their business. Untitled Christopher Moynihan Project, a.k.a. The Wades Blue-collar family moves into a great neighborhood. Greener Two friends, single and married, envy each other. The Manzianis Italian-American family moves into Waspy New Jersey neighborhood.

The Other Kennedys Family comedy about a couple with twelve kids, set in the eighties. Untitled Erica Rivinoja Project Couple deals with two sets of in-laws. Other People’s Kids Younger guy falls for older mom. Untitled Ed Burns Project Working-class neighbors are thrown when alpha male moves in next door. Untitled Kevin Hench Project Man’s man finds his adult son living in a world of Baby Björns.

Untitled Chrissy Pietrosh & Jessica Goldstein Project Female best friends work together. Untitled Felica Henderson Project Female sports agent and attorney must take in nieces and nephews. Cartoon Marriage Adventures of a married pair of New Yorker cartoonists; executive-produced by Jennifer Garner. Joe American Joe Wong and his friends from ESL class pursue Americanness. Untitled Rob Horn Project Comedy with musical element, about a woman who returns to her Texas family after failing at showbiz.

Tall and Greenbaum Adapted from an Israeli show about brothers who make wedding and bar mitzvah videos. The Package Deal Man deals with his in-laws. Boyfred Web designer whose girlfriend goes overseas creates a site so their friends can keep in touch. Untitled DJ Nash Project Newlywed husband lives two days with his wife, five days with his single friends. Awkward Family Photos Based on the website.

Mortified Based on the book. Untitled Betsy Thomas Project Compares relationships when you are 22 and broke with those when you’re 32 and successful. BILF True-life story about marrying best friend’s kid brother. Brenda Tucker Quirky single-camera sitcom following a girl’s quest for love. Smothered A couple and their in-laws; Marcia Gay Harden stars. Suburgatory Single dad moves teen daughter from the city. Awkward Situations Based on Danny Wallace’s book.

2011 Drama Scripts/Pilots

True Lies Adaptation of James Cameron’s film. Once Upon a Time Woman is drawn into town where fairy tales and magic may be real. (same as Pushing Daisies?) Partners Two female cops are secretly sisters. Revenge Soap set in the Hamptons.

Behind the Blue Family cop drama. (same as Blue Bloods?) Crisis White House faces one global event per season. (The West Wing meets 24) The River Crew seeks missing adventurer in the Amazon. (Peter Benchley's Amazon meets Lost) Scandal Shonda Rimes drama about a crisis manager.

Human: Alien being occupies a person’s body. Long Gray Line Soap set at West Point. MI-5 British adaptation about intelligence. Monte Cristo Daughter of a Madoff-ish victim tries to get revenge.

No. 2 About the vice-president of the U.S. Grace Dysfunctional family in the world of dance. Good Christian Bitches Upscale Dallas life; Darren Star executive-produces. Headhunter Executive recruiter’s life.

Untitled Jessica Goldberg Project Woman profiles victims to solve crimes. Hallelujah Tennessee town in crisis; episodes include gospel choir. Marc Cherry executive-produces; Michael Apted directs. (Premise: Good vs Evil) Paradise Investigations P.I. in the Caribbean. Untitled Josh Safran Project Takes people back to life-altering decisions, showing alternatives.

911 Operators Life-saving phone staff. Born Blue A.I. cops. The Box City-cops soap. (NYPD Blue meets Southland) POV Disgraced law student does hidden-camera investigations.

Hall of Mirrors Spy show: Taken meets Bourne Identity. Untitled Stephen Chbosky Project Mother-daughter attorneys. Glimpse Procedural about a cop with amnesia. John Doe meets NYPD Blue) Island of Women Soapy medical drama. (Grey's Anatomy meets Desperate Housewives with a dash of E.R.)

City of Night L.A. cops race to solve just-committed crimes. (Southland meets CSI: Crime Scene Investigation) Courtroom 302 Inside Cook County’s felony courthouse. (The Practice meets The Good Wife) Identity Adaptation of British identity-theft drama. Angela Bassett stars. Untitled Ken Solarz Project Female police commissioner in NYC. (The Chicago Code meets NYPD Blue)

The Man Dates Married male friends drowning in estrogen. Oath ER surgeon involved with the Russian mob. (E.R. meets The Sopranos) Afterwives Soap about the wives of white-collar criminals. (Desperate Housewives meets Mob Wives) Ghostworld Couple can see future and supernatural worlds. (Ghost Whisperer meets Medium)

Inhuman Great criminals have been psychologically cloned; investigators must find them. Untitled Firefighter Project TBD. Hunter Gatherer Victimologist procecural. In Crisis Woman whose story is a mess tries to fix strangers’ lives.

Life After Marriage Breakup and starting over. Bastards Family soap. (modern version of Knots Landing) Untitled Romeo & Juliet Project Shakespeare reimagined. Los Roldan Man saves woman’s life; she hires him to run her company.

Untitled Peter Noah Project. Female lawyer. (Philly meets Harry's Law) Charlie’s Angels The trio returns. Department Zero Counterterrorism unit. (The Unit meets 24) Nannyland TBD.

The Prince of Tides Based on Pat Conroy’s novel. Pan Am Glamorous sixties pilots and stews. Perfect Crimes Vigilante female D.A. (modern version of Close to Home) Broome Procedural about a mom–homicide detective.

Edgar Floats Procedural in which lead character exists in two worlds. I, P.I. Detective gets his moves from seventies TV shows. Poe Procedural with stories and characters from Edgar Allan Poe. Untitled Rina Mimoun Teachers Project Adult teachers. (Boston Public meets Everwood)

Lost Girls Young women quit their jobs and travel. Cult Thriller about a devoted TV audience. Georgetown The O.C. in D.C. (The OC meets The West Wing)

Consensus about when to add and remove TV shows

With primetime shows that are only on once a week, if they are scheduled to air anytime within the next 2 weeks of the current day (since that's the timeframe that all of the major listings sites use) then they should be included on the list, since you can see the date when they're gonna air.

Your suggestion is reasonable. I would settle for the "within two weeks" consensus for new primetime shows. But in exchange, please no more removal of TV shows nor documenting them as defunct until they have aired the very last minute of their final episode, regardless if it's on daytime of primetime. So in other words, edits such as this one would not be accepted because this happened 4 minutes before the show was ended. This edit should had be done at 3:00pm, never at 2:56pm.

As for The Revolution, I think the ideal would have been to keep it on the "Upcoming series" section until the Monday it started, even if OLTL was removed from the article on Friday. In other words, removing or documenting a daytime TV show as defunct should not automatically be synonymous of updating the informations about its replacement show if the latter has not debuted yet.

If you have any question,comments, suggestions or objections, please let me know. Regards Farine (talk) 05:04, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Anything after 2 weeks, then it's fair to hold off, especially if it's a brand new show.

With daily programs...I'll give you holding off putting one on the list if it's replacing another (like when The Revolution replaced One Life to Live) until it ends it's run.

But with a weekly show, since primetime schedules can change on a dime, if a show is on the listed schedule, it should count on the currently airing list.

I think that's fair.

Vjmlhds 03:27, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

I think we can work together here...primetime shows within 2 weeks go on the "current list", beyond that (especially if it's a new show) goes in the "upcoming list". And we wait until a show has aired it's advertised finale before removing it from the list.

Daily shows--we wait till one expires before putting in it's replacement.

Good enough for me.

Vjmlhds 13:49, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

What I'm trying to understand is why you absolutely want to remove (or put as defunct) a primetime show from the list if it hasn't aired its final episode yet. I can understand the within 2 weeks thing for new shows. But why remove a show that is still airing just because it has advertized its finale? I just don't get how a show that is still airing can be removed from the list. Please help me understand this one. Farine (talk) 14:20, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Look again at my last post...I said we wait until a show's finale has aired before we remove it. That goes for primetime or day time.

Vjmlhds 14:23, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Missing

Yes, Missing has been cancelled.

But it still has one more episode to air on the 17th. So let it air, and after the final credits, then it can go bye-bye from the list.

Vjmlhds 04:02, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Consensus about Litton's Weekend Adventure and reruns episodes

I wanted to hear from you guys about two specific topics. One concerns exclusively the List of programs broadcast by American Broadcasting Company article. The other concerns all three articles: List of programs broadcast by American Broadcasting Company, List of programs broadcast by CBS and List of programs broadcast by NBC.

1) I was possibly consider removing Litton's Weekend Adventure from the List of programs broadcast by American Broadcasting Company article. The reason is that although this block runs exclusively on ABC local stations, it technically isn't a ABC network block (unlike NBC's Qubo and CBS's Cookie Jar TV).

2) If a primetime show has aired its final episode but is still airing reruns, should that show remain on the said article or be removed? Personally, I think it should logically stay on the article because that show is still airing on the said network even if it has expired all new episodes. NBC currently is running 1980s episodes of Babar on Saturday morning and nobody ever considered to take that show off the list. Yet, when it's a primetime show, it is automatically deleted once it has aired its final episode with total disregard about the reruns that are still airing. I don't think it makes sense that it's okay for a Saturday morning show that airs reruns to stay on the list but not for a primetime show.

Note that I don't mind the status quo for either topic. But I just want to hear what you guys think to see if some changes should be implemented for one or both topics. Thank you. Farine (talk) 05:44, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

1) Merely a technicality. Litton is for all intents and purposes ABC's kid block. The whole reason for it's existance is to keep it's affiliates in compliance with the E/I rule.

2) For cancelled primetime shows, I guess it's OK to include them on the list (if within the 2 week window)...just as long as it's pointed out that the show has been cancelled.

Vjmlhds 06:10, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

For topic #2, it wouldn't be a good idea at all to start pointing out which shows have been cancelled. These articles are mere lists, not schedule infos.

As for topic #1, I'm not opposed that Litton stays on the list. But I find it hard to digest that it is part of ABC network programming when it doesn't even use ABC's logo during the broadcasts, does not run any ABC promos during the commercials and is not referenced at all on ABC's official website. It is a different situation than what is seen with Qubo on NBC or Cookie Jar TV on CBS. Farine (talk) 14:53, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

However you want to proceed with #2 is fine by me. The only thing is that with most primetime cancelled shows, a lot of the time once they're gone, they're gone. It's mostly shows like House for example that had long runs and even after their finale airs, the network (in this case Fox) will still show reruns to air through summer (a "farewell tour" as it were). And then there's new fall shows that tank, get yanked quickly, aren't seen in forever, and then maybe in the summer get thrown in on Saturdays to burnoff whatever episodes are still contractually obligated to air (example: How to be a Gentleman on CBS) As far as #1 goes, look at it this way, ABC basically sold the Saturday morning slot to the highest bidder, and said "have at it". So while it's not officially official that Litton is ABC property, if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...Vjmlhds 18:00, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm all for your proposed suggestion. Litton stays on the article. But from now on, we wait until a show expires all its episodes (news and reuns alike) before removing it from an article. Of course, there's always the possibility that a cancelled show returns (either on new or rerun form). If that's the case, we'll just simply add the show back on the article.

Mr Slicks and Davejohnson were also invited on this discussion and I'm giving them one more day to weigh in their opinion before the consensus is finalized.

Thank you for your input and have a nice weekend. Farine (talk) 20:31, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Cool beans by me...as long as it airs, it gets listed. If it gets cancelled and goes away, it comes off the board. If a cancelled show (like a fall show that bombs) comes back in summer for burnoffs, it can go back on the board until it goes away for good. Vjmlhds 01:16, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Well if you really want my opinion, my answer to #2 is simply no, on the basis that once a primetime show has aired its final original episode, it no longer has any reason to count as a primetime show. If the same network airs a cancelled program as part of a programming block that airs outside of primetime hours, that's different. If you would like additional input from me, let me know, but for now I need to leave for work before I'm late... Davejohnsan (talk) 16:10, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

But a cancelled primetime show that has aired its final episode but is airing reruns, is logically still airing on the network. These articles are not about which shows counts as primetime shows or not, but rather about which shows are airing on a network.

What I can suggest is that we create a sub-section called "Reruns" for all shows that are airing reruns. This "reruns" sub-section would be placed along with the other sub-sections such "Dramas", "Sitcoms", "Sports", etc. Farine (talk) 17:11, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

While at heart I agree with Dave, I can live with a "cancelled" sub-section. Vjmlhds 18:15, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm also for a new sub-section for the shows that have expired all new sections but are still airing reruns. But I think it it would better to call it "reruns" or "repeats", not "cancelled". Calling it "cancelled" may cause confusion and make people wonder why the shows are on the article if they have been cancelled or why shows that have been cancelled but are still running new episodes are not on that "cancelled" sub-section. "Reruns" or "repeats" is more appropriate and avoids confusion.

Remember, these articles are lists, not schedule informations. Schedules already have their own articles. Farine (talk) 18:55, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

For clarity, is this a proposal to create a list for cancelled shows that networks are still reruning for the summer hiatus? Davejohnsan (talk) 20:48, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

It is a sub-section that would regroup all shows that have aired their final episodes but are still airing on the networks, regardless of the season of the year. It would be a sub-section just like "Dramas", "Sitcoms", "Sports", "Awards", etc.

Chances are, this sub-section will often be absent from the articles because, as Vjmlhds pointed out, a show that aired its final episode is generally completely gone from the network's schedule at the same time. But this is not always the case, and I believe that a sub-section should be created for these shows. But an appropriate name for it should be "Reruns" or "Repeats" (not "Cancelled"). Farine (talk) 21:11, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Davejohnsan, apparently you are opposed to the original consensus that what reached between me and Vjmlhds at 01:16 on 30 June 2012. That's perfectly okay. However, you have not proposed any alternative suggestion. Do you have any suggestions or are we gonna go with the original consensus that was planned between me and Vjmlhds on Friday? Farine (talk) 05:50, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, to be honest, I don't really see the point in adding it, but my feelings on it are not strong enough to oppose it completely. So, for now, my vote on the consensus will remain neutral, if that's okay. Davejohnsan (talk) 16:39, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem buddy. Vjmlhds and I will decide the consensus for now. If you have an idea you want to share with us, just let us know in our talk pages. After all, a consensus is not static and can always change in the future. Cheers. Farine (talk) 17:04, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Our original consensus works for me. As long as it airs, it gets listed. If a show gets cancelled and yanked off the schedule, it comes off the board (i.e. a fall show that tanks). If said cancelled show were to re-emerge in the Saturday wasteland or some such circumstance to play out the string, it can go back on the board as long as it airs. To make life easy in the future...if a show gets cancelled and disappears, always assume it's gone for good, as most shows in that type of situation are...we can adjust as we go along if it makes a brief resurrection. Vjmlhds 21:16, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Okay. If you feel that is consensus should be reviewed in the future, please don't hesitate to let me know. Take care. Farine (talk) 03:59, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

A little reminder

Just a little reminder:

Last Resort and 666 Park Avenue have both been cancelled, but as long as they're playing out the string, they stay on the board.

Vjmlhds 17:15, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

The Pinkertons

I'm not sure whether to add The Pinkertons to this list, but I know it is airing on select stations nationally, and there is no official page for it.--JeSuisFame (talk) 18:56, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Undue weight

Promoting content that has not appeared on the station is WP:UNDUE weight as well as being non encyclopedic and purely promotional in nature and needs to be removed.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:01, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2015

69.141.209.159 (talk) 00:23, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

• Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --Stabila711 (talk) 00:27, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Scrubs genre

Tell me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't Scrubs be in the comedy-drama section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike Weber02 (talk • contribs) 04:24, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Soap Operas

Soap operas are their own genre category of show. They are not primetime dramas. That is why they are placed in their own category on articles like this (and equivalent articles for other networks). They are listed in their own category for both current and former programming, including in this article. -AnonWikiEditor (talk) 05:36, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

The only reason you are doing this because General Hospital isn't a primetime show, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be under drama. ABC's site lists it as a drama, while the Wikipedia article of General Hospital also mentioned that its a drama. So just stop!TheVeryHotWikipedian (talk) 09:42, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

No. Soap operas may derive from drama, but they are their own genre. Soap operas are listed in their own category on every such list (see CBS, NBC, BBC, etc.) because they are very different types of shows from regular dramas that air in primetime. Soaps are also separated from regular drama programming further down on this very article as well in the former programs section. There is no justification for moving General Hospital in this list as you keep doing. -AnonWikiEditor (talk) 10:04, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Your opinion and a not a law here in Wikipedia. Soap operas are drama just like CW's Dynasty and that one is under the drama section. Stop.TheVeryHotWikipedian (talk) 11:47, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

In fact, daytime soap operas are considered to be a separate genre, and are listed in their own sections at both List of programs broadcast by CBS and List of programs broadcast by NBC. There's no reason they should be handled differently here. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:57, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Disney Parks Christmas Day Parade

If it is believed this long running special has been canceled, then please provide the source(s) stating as such. Otherwise it should not be removed (and it should never be completely removed anyway - even if it was canceled, it should be moved to the former programs section further down the page, not removed from the page entirely). -AnonWikiEditor (talk) 10:29, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

How about you include a source in the first place? How is that hard? TheVeryHotWikipedian (talk) 11:45, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Charts

Could you make charts for ABC shows, including the current season column for current programming? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.59.245.106 (talk) 22:44, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

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The Flintstones

The Flintstones was listed as a children’s show, but it’s actually an adult animated sitcom! 2600:1702:15C0:5BB0:FC3F:826E:AEC6:817E (talk) 15:26, 9 June 2023 (UTC)