Talk:Dave Edmunds
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[edit]Is this original work? -- Zoe
Here Comes the Weekend
[edit]In the US, in the present day, this song is one of the most commonly played of all his work. Yet, it isn't even mentioned in the article.
Unnecessary and demeaning observation
[edit]This comment is in the first paragraph: "An infrequent songwriter, Edmunds has largely relied on cover songs or custom-written material to sustain his career." The same thing could be said of Sinatra, Elvis, Billie Holiday, and scores of other greats, but that is not mentioned in regard to them. Why should it be noted about Dave Edmunds? Maybe it has a place late in the article in reference to material Edmunds has written, though I doubt it. It certainly is not appropriate in the lead paragraph. I remember reading this exact observation in some Rock guide: perhaps Rolling Stone magazine's. I'm removing it. Nicmart 19:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- ... doesn't the Record Guide count as a citation backing the statement? Dano67 (talk) 16:38, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
He's not dead, he still records
[edit]The entry says, "he was steadfastly devoted to pre-Beatles rock and roll." He recorded at least one Beatles song, Lady Madonna, and did concerts with his friend George Harrison. I think this is bunk, although "steadfastly devoted" could mean almost anything. It also shouldn't be "was" but "is." Edmunds is not deceased and has not stopped recording. Nicmart 19:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC)!
- I wholeheartedly agree that "steadfastly devoted" is over strong and even jars on the ears. I have tempered the statement and eased the tense. 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 20:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- he announced his retirement in 2015 (via Brian Setzer), so 'was' is correct now. There were a few songs released in 2021 on Bandcamp, but they seem to be from 2015 as well (the year of his final, instrumental album). Dano67 (talk) 16:57, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- correction, maybe: 2017 retirement. And recording from the studio release "...Again" seems to date to 2013. Dano67 (talk) 17:43, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Birthday
[edit]According to this page, Dave was born in 1943. I believe he was born in 1944, though I have no references with me to verify that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.165.201.47 (talk) 18:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- It seems 1943 may be correct. See "Date of birth" below. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:34, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Missing Band
[edit]Before Love Sculpture and Dave's solo career he had formed another band called Human Beans that worked mostly in London and on the University circuit. They recorded two unsuccessful singles including a cover of 'Morning Dew'. This facet is missing from the Wiki entry. Incidently during my friendship with Dave in the 60s and 70s I always understood he was five years older than me which would indeed place his birthday in 1944 as indicated by the person before me, this needs further investigating.21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 23:53, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Edmunds - Proto Punk Category?
[edit]Erm really? Edmunds himself is an out and out rocker who strayed very briefly into chart pop during his "Girls Talk" period. Could a reference be found for any later punk acts that considered him an influence? 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 03:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm sure somewhere in my collection I have a CD by the "Booze Brothers" - Dave Edmunds and Mark Knopfler.
Link Help Needed
[edit]I added "Run Rudolph Run" to Dave's single's. There is a Wikipedia entry for the song, but for some reason the link I made doesn't direct to that page. Maybe someone could make it happen. Nicmart (talk) 20:47, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Done. The exclamation marks have to be outside the parenthasis. 21st CENTURY GREENSTUFF 20:59, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Albert Lee Birthday Gig
[edit]He also played the Albert Lee Birthday Gigs at the Cadogan Hall on 1st and 2nd March 2014. https://www.amazon.co.uk/70th-Birthday-Celebration-DVD-Albert/dp/B0145ZX70U86.144.102.55 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:50, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Date of birth
[edit]Searching with FreeBMD, there are no 1944 births in Cardiff for a David Edmunds. There is, however, this entry for a David W. Edmunds, mother's name Chapman, registered in the 3rd quarter (June) of 1943. So I suspect his date of birth should be 15 April 1943. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:32, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Followong this revert by BrownHairedGirl, we've returned from unsourced 1943 to unsourced 1944. I have searched, without success, for any RS which gives 1944. But I have now found this and this for 1943. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:49, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- My main concern was to fix the WP:REDNOT problem, viz, this addition[1] by @Martinevans123 of a non-existent category.
- Since there was no source for the new date, the simplest solution was to revert.
- I have no ongoing interest in the topic, but suggest that until a WP:Reliable source is found, that the date is left as is with a {{cn}} tag, and that the article is added to Category:Year of birth uncertain. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:58, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for your note. Haha, well I guess you could have just changed 1943date → 1943. Never mind. I can find no evidence online for 1944. There is an earlier IP comment here, from 2007, which also questions 1943, but I'm pretty sure 1944 is wrong. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:14, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- p.s. encyclopedia.com also has 1943 here. Is that an RS? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:21, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Here's another source for 1943 and another, and another. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:20, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- Furthermore, the current source here does not give any date, it just says: "
Edmunds was born 55 years ago today in Cardiff, Wales.
" So I intend to remove it and add a {cn} tag for now. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:05, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for your note. Haha, well I guess you could have just changed 1943date → 1943. Never mind. I can find no evidence online for 1944. There is an earlier IP comment here, from 2007, which also questions 1943, but I'm pretty sure 1944 is wrong. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:14, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Place of birth
[edit]It seems that Edmunds was bon in Orbit Street, Adamstown in Cardiff. Here's a 2018 letter to the South Wales Echo confirming this. But I assume that is not a WP:RS source. Is there any better source? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:07, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
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